Are Americans Crazy?

[bambu]

http://www.2gb.com/index.php?option=com_homepage&id=15&Itemid=58

Scroll down a little, to just under Raaay's pic...and listen to;

' Robert Baer – Author and former CIA officer

Ray Hadley talks to Robert Baer – Author and former CIA officer – Visiting...'


Very interesting interview.....When Saddam was genociding the Kurds in the 1990's CIA Baer was behind Kurdish lines, and his group had Saddam lined up in its sights.

..all Clinton-Washington had to do was give the order to shoot, but it chickened out.
 

[mutation]

It is as simple as, we know Atheists can be evil, so they have an equal position to religion thus as i said, good is exclusive to reigion as evil is.

Regards,

Crimson

Potential and reality are usually divergent! Here in particular!

Mutation

[mutation]

Yes, we should have let the bad guys continue, even if it meant many more deaths. But, hey, we didn't know any of them??

Yes Exactly


Mutation

[Crimson]

It is as simple as, we know Atheists can be evil, so they have an equal position to religion thus as i said, good is exclusive to reigion as evil is.

Regards,

Crimson

Potential and reality are usually divergent! Here in particular!

Mutation

Nope, they aren't, the most evil men in modern history were atheists... so whatever you think of religion, atheism is just as bad if not worse.

Regards,

Crimson

[bambu]

Americans are crazy if they keep letting Obama borrow billions and trillions of dollars and spend it like there's no tomorrow.

There is a tomorrow...as Greece found out.

Eventually the bank puts a stop on your credit card...and you don't even have enough money to buy food!

[Crimson]

Americans are crazy if they keep letting Obama borrow billions and trillions of dollars and spend it like there's no tomorrow.

There is a tomorrow...as Greece found out.

Eventually the bank puts a stop on your credit card...and you don't even have enough money to buy food!

But when G W Bush did it, that was ok right?

Regards,

Crimson

[mutation]

It is as simple as, we know Atheists can be evil, so they have an equal position to religion thus as i said, good is exclusive to reigion as evil is.

Regards,

Crimson

Potential and reality are usually divergent! Here in particular!

Mutation

Nope, they aren't, the most evil men in modern history were atheists... so whatever you think of religion, atheism is just as bad if not worse.

Regards,

Crimson

Your being intentionally obtuse and you observation is meaningless unless you can demonstrate that it was their atheism that drove their ideology. As I said before the "lack of belief" cant be a motivator for much at all.It might make it easier to rationalize evil acts but it cant be the catalyst. More thinking and less dogma please

Mutation

[Crimson]

Atheism can be a catylist for evil when those who are atheist wish to enforce their "non-belief" on everyone esle, which is what Mao did, which is what Stalin did and which is what Hitler did (he persecuted anyone and everyone who believed different an especially those who would not give up their faith).

Again, the logic line works, atheism has much a perpensity for evil if not more so than theism, given that all of the most evil people of the past century were atheists making atheism far more dangerous than theism could ever be.

Regards,

Crimson

[mutation]

Atheism can be a catylist for evil when those who are atheist wish to enforce their "non-belief" on everyone esle, which is what Mao did, which is what Stalin did and which is what Hitler did (he persecuted anyone and everyone who believed different an especially those who would not give up their faith).

Again, the logic line works, atheism has much a perpensity for evil if not more so than theism, given that all of the most evil people of the past century were atheists making atheism far more dangerous than theism could ever be.

Regards,

Crimson

Your zealotry is getting in your way of clarity of thought. You have provided no evidence or even reasoning to show it was Atheism that drove their ideology and not the other way around. You have not done this because there is no such evidence to support it.
Did Hitler persecute Catholics and Lutherans, Baptists etc like he did Jews? Clearly not a man being driven by a hatred of all religion and certainly not because he was an atheist.

You seem for some reason to be going out of your way to prove the unprovable.
By way of an example lets put atheism aside for a moment and examine a lack of belief in anything else you like and explain to me how not having a belief in something can the the primary motivation for anything. It might mean you are not compelled like other to follow a convention of some kind but that is a lack of stimulus not a new source of it.
The lack of a reason not to not do something is not the same thing as a reason for doing something!

Mutation

[skypilot]

So are you saying that because Stalin, Hitler and others did not say, "I am doing this in the name of atheism" then we cannot blame atheism for what they were responsible for?

[mutation]

So are you saying that because Stalin, Hitler and others did not say, "I am doing this in the name of atheism" then we cannot blame atheism for what they were responsible for?

Your poor choice of words not mine but essentially yes!

Mutation

[skypilot]

So are you saying that because Stalin, Hitler and others did not say, "I am doing this in the name of atheism" then we cannot blame atheism for what they were responsible for?

Your poor choice of words not mine but essentially yes!

Mutation

Sorry for my poor choice of words as I am not an academic like yourself.

[skypilot]

So are you saying that because Stalin, Hitler and others did not say, "I am doing this in the name of atheism" then we cannot blame atheism for what they were responsible for?

Your poor choice of words not mine but essentially yes!

Mutation

What a cop out!!!

[Crimson]

Mutation, you oft claim that theists can not see past thier own belief, well, i hope you have a mirror handy.

The fact is, the most evil men in modern history were atheists and persecuted those of faith to a far greater extent than the reverse, Hitler did persecute Catholics and Lutherins, he persecuted all who disagreed especially those who held positions within the churches.

Atheism has lead to the greatest of human miseries, it is a tenet of socialism and it is enforced by many socialist regimes, the fact that you Mutation refuse to accept the realit can only be described as the Godless Delusion.

Regards,

Crimson

[mutation]

So are you saying that because Stalin, Hitler and others did not say, "I am doing this in the name of atheism" then we cannot blame atheism for what they were responsible for?

Your poor choice of words not mine but essentially yes!

Mutation

Sorry for my poor choice of words as I am not an academic like yourself.

Im no academic i didnt finis highschool!

Mutation