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Minx

May 15, 2012, 08:40:34 PM
12efwg is simply booted...not even going to try and attempt being W&F
 

Chris

May 14, 2012, 08:30:53 PM
I said nothing.... aloud. :)
 

Minx

May 14, 2012, 08:29:41 PM
was tempted to delete the whole thing, but just being warm and fuzzy - stop laughing
 

Chris

May 14, 2012, 08:28:38 PM
May as well take 'Canada Visa' out altogether as the reference to the website is still there! :(
 

Chris

May 14, 2012, 02:48:44 PM
Clever... will have to check the newbies a little closer!!
 

Minx

May 12, 2012, 02:39:30 PM
Seems the latest spammer trick is to come back a day or two later and add their links...sigh...
 

Chris

May 08, 2012, 09:29:05 AM
Agggghhh.... I need more time.... !!!!! :(
 

Chris

May 03, 2012, 10:31:30 AM
I will be *so* glad when we move. With luck it will be the end of June but until then it's like living in an opp shop. Stuff everywhere!! :(
 

Minx

April 26, 2012, 10:09:42 PM
Good to see you Sennex
 

Senexx

April 26, 2012, 10:01:12 AM
I finally remembered the name and URL of this site.
 

jen

April 24, 2012, 09:16:19 PM
Nup. Month sounds good to me  :) :)
 

Minx

April 23, 2012, 09:41:12 PM
I'd think not...suggest that we hold about a Calendar month
 

Chris

April 23, 2012, 07:09:24 PM
Wow... we have 543 pages of shouts stored!! Do we *really* need to keep all those?? :D
 

Chris

April 23, 2012, 07:08:16 PM
Seems to me he's being hung, drawn and quartered by Abbott before there's any sort of judicial inquiry. The real 'joke' is that Turnbull was up for the same 'offence' but was allowed to keep working while it was sorted out!! Hypocrisy at its worst.
 

jen

April 23, 2012, 08:39:49 AM
OK I am n ot getting into the Peter Slipper thing - I dont follow politics closely enough - but will wait and see... apart from that, not much in the news pages
 

jen

April 22, 2012, 06:22:32 PM
Hi Bravus, nice to hear things are going well for you... nice and quiet here - just the way I like it! ;)
 

Bravus

April 22, 2012, 07:16:22 AM
Wandering by to say 'Hi'. Completely flat out at the moment, studying 2 courses and teaching 3, plus buying a townhouse on the Gold Coast for our big move in a few months. All the developments are good ones, though. Hope all's well with all here.
 

Minx

April 20, 2012, 08:38:13 PM
It will start to look so good that you won't want to leave...take a teaspoon of cement, harden up and get over that feeling
 

Chris

April 18, 2012, 09:29:58 AM
Not a lot from me. I'm still up to my neck in paint and likely to remain that way for some weeks to comes... maybe even months! Still, the old house is starting to look a little better than it was. :)
 

Minx

April 17, 2012, 08:51:46 PM
Came, read and went
 

Minx

April 15, 2012, 06:16:53 PM
Finally updating my Bookmarks on the new puter...added this place..might remember to come here now :)
 

Chris

April 15, 2012, 06:15:24 PM
Good on ya jen... wish I was there!! I'm still trying to motivate myself to get on with the work :)
 

jen

April 15, 2012, 11:46:37 AM
Won't be in much this week, if at all...going on a camp for work - wish me luck and good weather!! lol  ;D
 

Chris

April 14, 2012, 01:08:17 PM
Nice one Bravus... I love the Gold Coast and wish we could live up there but the commute to Sydney is a bit too long! :D
 

Bravus

April 12, 2012, 10:30:54 PM
(oh, did I mention I got a new job at Griffith Uni's Gold Coast campus? hence the move)
 

Bravus

April 12, 2012, 10:30:15 PM
Just had our offer accepted on a townhouse in the Gold Coast today, so if all the finance works and the body corp approve the dog, we'll be moving too.
 

Chris

April 12, 2012, 09:06:05 PM
Damn right... it is *not* a pleasant experience but the new house will be worth it if we get it!! Remind me and I'll tell you where it is so you can come visit!! :D
 

bambu

April 12, 2012, 05:10:15 PM
Moving house?

That means taking every little thing out of every cupboard and wardrobe.
Everything out of the garages.
Everything out of the whole house.
OOOOOOOHHHHH, I have a headache even thinking about it.  ;)
 

bambu

April 12, 2012, 05:05:17 PM
Chris,

it's because the calories going in are more numerous than the ones departing thru work etc. :)
 

Chris

April 11, 2012, 11:08:24 PM
Why is that that tho I'm working my butt off... I'm no lighter?? :D
 

jen

April 10, 2012, 09:13:37 AM
I was just going to post about a missing boy in Cardiff NSW... but he has been found safe and staying at a friends. The friends parents were alerted to the police search when they heard the police media conference on TV. So there's a media upside - good work!  ;D
 

Chris

April 05, 2012, 09:40:43 AM
Has to be done I suppose but it's keeping me off the computer and I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing?? :D
 

jen

April 02, 2012, 08:11:14 AM
Eeeesh Chris - all that packing! I am so glad I dont have to move - because I know I dont want to!! lol
 

Chris

April 02, 2012, 06:44:23 AM
Next weekend is the biggie... and then in 12 weeks we move house.
 

jen

April 01, 2012, 04:33:56 PM
So... did everyone go away for the weekend, or was that just me? :o
 

Chris

April 01, 2012, 08:25:22 AM
We're on the move... put offer in for new house so in three months big changes happening. :)

Will almost certainly have a knock on effect regarding the site so... we'll see.
 

Chris

March 23, 2012, 11:04:46 AM
Yeah... TGIF... :D
 

jen

March 23, 2012, 09:08:08 AM
Mornin'! Gotta love a Frida that you don't work...  ;D
 

Chris

March 20, 2012, 06:52:54 PM
Heh... so I saw on Facebook :D
 

jen

March 20, 2012, 05:54:05 PM
Having a look around from my new lappy!! :)
 

Chris

March 20, 2012, 09:39:13 AM
Ok... still quiet in here... I'm off to the garden! :D
 

Chris

March 20, 2012, 09:31:39 AM
Woohoo... been looking at the stats and I'm starting to catch up with Bambu in the list of 'top ten posters'*. Only another 1,000 and I'll beat him!

*(but still need another 25 *days* online to catch his other record!)
 

Chris

March 13, 2012, 02:30:34 PM
Loads to write up... I just need the time to get near the computer to post properly!! :D
 

Cran

March 10, 2012, 01:35:01 PM
I was mostly thinking about it in the paved areas, but yes will try that.

Thanks, Chris for your wishes - appreciated.
 

Minx

March 09, 2012, 10:49:26 PM
Don't know Cran...try it. The website says it kills just about anything and to be CAREFUL of it around plants you want
 

Cran

March 09, 2012, 09:29:51 PM
Does it work on creeping death ... um, I mean couch grass?
 

Chris

March 09, 2012, 05:18:25 AM
Worked here too... tho not as well because of the rain washing the vinegar off. Still, it's dried off a bit today (so far) so will give it another try! :D
 

Minx

March 08, 2012, 07:58:34 PM
MINX REPORT:
CC posted a week or two ago about using white vinegar instead of nasty chemicals on weeds. Did a trial- yep, it works
 

Chris

March 06, 2012, 07:26:33 PM
Just thought I'd explain I'm not posting much because I can;t see to read!! Until my glasses come back I'm relying on my contacts, and as I explained on a previous occasion... they are impossible to use for most ordinary tasks! :D
 

jen

March 06, 2012, 08:19:05 AM
lol MInx...I think gladly! ;D

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Author Topic: How much is parenting worth to a child??  (Read 242 times)

Offline Chris

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How much is parenting worth to a child??
« on: February 07, 2012, 05:05:52 PM »
According to the latest figures issues by Docs by the time a child gets to age sixteen the answer would seem to be not a lot.

For reasons that make no sense at all, the rulers of the Social Services have decreed that at age 16 foster parents to carers must be reduced by the same amount that the child is eligible to receive from their Youth Allowance (somewhere around $100 a week). Not only that, but their tax relief is to be cut by a similar amount so, basically, anyone helping both the state *and* society by opening their homes to children in need are about to be slugged by $200 a week for the privilege.

The response from Docs is to tell foster parents they must 'negotiate' with their charges to recoup some of the losses by getting the child to pay them! I wonder if whoever made up this crazy rule has ever tried to 'negotiate' with an unruly and belligerent 16 year old over money?? I'd say *not*!!!

I can understand that to some the current situation looks like 'double dipping' but there must be a better approach available than the one that was chosen! To me the common sense approach would have been to disqualify foster kids from claiming the money until they have left their foster parents care! This way there would be no change in the balance of power within the family until the child was either old enough to take care of itself i.e. when Docs care ended at 18, or when the child voluntarily decided to leave the foster home.

The decision has all sorts of ramifications apart from potentially damaging the relationship between foster parent and foster child, but it could also drive a wedge between the foster child and any natural children of the family. I can forsee all sorts of arguments exploding over why this *one* child should be getting so much 'pocket money' when other kids in the family don't (I'm assuming here than most parents *don't* give their kids $100/per week pocket money).

The legislation to stop foster parents receiving the cash they so badly need was easy enough to pass... so why wasn't the Youth Allowance legislation changed instead?? This really makes no sense and is a slap in the face to all those people who've opened their homes and hearts to help children when they needed help most.

The only reason I can that might make economic sense (of a sort) would be if the Foster Care Allowance was paid by the state, and the Youth Allowance was paid by the Federal Government.

It's disgraceful.
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Re: How much is parenting worth to a child??
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2012, 04:14:05 AM »
the foster parents should just charge the child $100 a week board,
thats if they can,  but the govt just change the allowance as board in stead of foster care and  only when the child leaves the family do they get the $100 a week

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Re: How much is parenting worth to a child??
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2012, 08:19:56 AM »
Get family tax benefit instead of youth allowance?
O'er Mithgarth Hugin and Munin both each day set forth to fly; For Hugin I fear lest he come not home, But for Munin my care is more.

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Re: How much is parenting worth to a child??
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2012, 09:49:05 AM »
Get family tax benefit instead of youth allowance?

Not sure how that work... esp if neither foster parent works as is often the case! :(

It's the problem of negotiating with a child to get some of 'their' money out of them that'll cause the biggest rifts I reckon! It's a ridiculous cost cutting idea that will cause more problems than it cures!! :(
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Re: How much is parenting worth to a child??
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2012, 09:44:31 AM »
It seems silly on the basis that it's going to cause tension and arguments between the carer and child. Something that I think would want to be avoided in these situations...
O'er Mithgarth Hugin and Munin both each day set forth to fly; For Hugin I fear lest he come not home, But for Munin my care is more.

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Re: How much is parenting worth to a child??
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2012, 02:21:36 PM »
Maybe the negotiations needs to go along the line of... you are responsible for your clothes/shoes/entertainment (or whatever). Then you don't pay for those things, rather than you need to pay board. I have had a similar situation, how do you govern what they take from the cupboard? What they wash themselves with? It makes life difficult for everyone around them, without really making a difference for them! You can maybe cut somethings that they like to eat...and suggest that they buy their own or put some money toward the family purchse (say, pizza... no money, no pizza) You know the old...we would love to have you but...

Good luck :P 8)
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